[Logan]

Hi Pranil, I was talking only about post #7178 and not about posts #7179 and #7180. I’m using my phone and it took long for me to type and I didn’t see your later posts.

Let us forget all the previous posts and concentrate on important things.

I will start a new thread where everyone can give their suggestions.

I have discussed with the admin and I have prepared a draft for that and there are few changes that I need to make and I will upload it by tomorrow EOD.

You can also give your suggestions there and together we all can discuss and appoint a person to ask questions to the management in the conference call. Instead of many people asking questions it’ll be better if a single person asks the questions on everyone’s behalf.

[Logan]

Hi Pranil, I have been polite with you all this time but you are trying to provoke me, don’t plant wrong information about me here, being a long term investor myself, I never called long term investors as impatient.

I’ve called people who buy stocks looking at price alone as impatient. It’s because of people like you I didn’t write anything all these years.

I’ve not compared Apple with BCG. I don’t think you got my point. I mentioned that even the big companies in the world have struggled. And BCG also paid dividend in 2012 and 2016, did that change market sentiment?
10 years back BHEL was trading above Rs.300 and now the price is Rs.30. I’m not comparing BCG with BHEL business, I’m comparing only the price and again my point is that all companies have troubles with their stock prices.

It’s not my problem if you don’t understand the problems faced by the company, I can’t spoon feed everything to you.
It’s not the management’s fault if people like you don’t understand the nature of the business.

If you are talking about the performance of the company, yes, they have performed well all these years. But it’s people like you who don’t appreciate that. You only see the price and think that is more important than the survival of the company.

If you don’t understand the difference between profit and cash flow then it’s not my problem.

I too feel frustrated looking at the price but unlike you, I understood the problems the company is facing.

If you are frustrated with the management go ask them for answers. Why are you asking for my opinions if you don’t understand them properly?

If you have suggestions we all long term investors are ready to take them and we all can discuss about them with the management. But if you ask my opinion on something and later accuse me of something which I didn’t do then I’ll stop replying to your questions.

[Logan]

@Raj

I don’t know anything about the selling, like you I’m also a retail investor and whatever opinion I have will only be speculation and it won’t do any good if I start sharing my opinions.

I don’t know whether BCG has arranged a buyer for OAK’s shares or not. Maybe we should ask the company about the selling.

[Logan]

Thank you Investor_2022.

I really can’t predict the timeline of the events especially now with COVID-19 pandemic.

If all went well, Lycos case with Daum would’ve been settled by early March this year. Mr Reddy was supposed to travel to South Korea and close that off.

South Korea was hard hit by the virus in February and early March so he didn’t go there. I’m not sure whether it’s safe for him to travel there now also.

These days the company is updating us regularly through the exchanges.We should appreciate that.

May be we’ll get a clarity from the CEO in the conference call after the results.

[Logan]

Since they do most of their business in the US, they are consolidating all their subsidiaries and forming a new entity there.

I checked some of their publishers and most of them are in the US, the banks will know about their business and this helps them get funds easily.

In my opinion if they don’t consolidate their subsidiaries then some of them might find it hard to raise fund in their respective countries.

Suppose if the interest rate is 1% in the US and 5% in Canada and if they raise cash in the US they can’t send it to Canada directly, they’ll have show it as income which will be subjected to tax. Since they are spread out in 24 countries, each and every country will have different rates and different rules on raising funds.

So taking all this into consideration, consolidation of the subsidiaries make sense.

[Logan]

Hi Nithin, that’s a good observation. The company tried to raise money back in 2017 from White Oak. The amount was $150 million (around 1000 crores).

I don’t know whether it was debt or equity, but it would’ve helped the company in many ways. First they could’ve settled Lycos case with Daum then they could’ve used the remaining amount for growth and to sort out receivable issues.

When Daum got to know about this, they dragged White Oak to the court and subpoenaed them to reveal the details. Since White Oak wasn’t involved in the operations of the company, they backed off. Nobody wants to get involved in a legal case. This also made other potential investors to back off.

I think this made the company to give up hopes on Lycos and they lost the ownership.

And regarding your other question on why now and not earlier, my guess is that since they are spread all over the globe and different countries will have different rules and regulations, it would be hard for them to manage all those processes.

They must have tried many options and concluded consolidating all the subsidiaries would be the best option, and they didn’t rush it and may be this took time.

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