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They should at least say why they are issuing the warrants. When everyone was expecting LOC, they come up with warrants and don’t give proper details. We wouldn’t be this anxious if they had told us to whom these are issued to and why. That’s it.
Axis, LOC are not in their control because it involves other parties but this is in their control. Transparency is very important and it’s the very basic thing to do being a public company. People will lose trust if they update us after many days. We deserve to know more details when the dilution is this size.
LoganRegistered BoarderThey should mention for what purpose these warrants are issued. They miss out the basic information that needs to be shared and later try to give clarification. Same happened with the asset impairment. They updated after 2 or 3 days.
Diluting this much and not even telling for what purpose and to whom these warrants are issued looks unprofessional. When the market sentiment is this negative, they keep on repeating these mistakes again and again. Of course they’ll give details later but what’s the use? They create confusion and later give clarification. My question is why create unnecessary confusion. Why not give complete details at the beginning itself.
This all comes to corporate governance and as we always say, they should improve a lot in that.
LoganRegistered Boarder@odysee, my phone was switched off so I saw the update now.
It’s really shocking to see this level of dilution. The PO allotment itself was a big dilution but I didn’t care much at that time because that money would’ve helped close off Axis debt and that dilution is nothing compared to this. Even if it for stable investors, I don’t like this level of dilution.
Also, I can’t understand why they can’t reveal details of the entity or individuals. That’s why I always say that they should improve corporate governance. One update should contain all the information needed on this topic. They need to appoint a board member who has experience in the market. They creating unnecessary confusion.
LoganRegistered Boarder@drjaysee, whatever opinions I give will only be speculation right now so let’s discuss about this after we get to know more details.
LoganRegistered Boarder@ramganesh, with BCG, we can never guess any timeline. If Axis didn’t go to NCLT, we wouldn’t have seen this level of manipulation. Looking at the price movements, it’s very clear that the market wants the company to close off Axis case in NCLT as soon as possible.
This particular event overshadowed all the other good events like growth in business, appointment of Mr Acharya, promoter buying shares etc. Even the proof that the company is continuing to pay Axis (when the case is in NCLT) didn’t lift the spirits because the market
won’t recognise half-done things.Even last year, the company updated to the exchanges that it paid off SBI,and Canara loans and still there was no changes in the price because the market didn’t see any proof for the loan payment but later when it saw the decrease in pledged shares, the price went up.
LoganRegistered BoarderI think (guess/speculation) promoters have pledged shares with third parties who act as intermediaries between the bank and the promoters. Once the loans are paid off, they will release the pledge on shares.
If loans aren’t paid on time then it’ll affect the intermediaries too, banks will put pressure on them who in turn will put pressure on the promoters to close off the loans.
I think bankers will have better idea on this.
November 25, 2020 at 1:33 pm in reply to: Poll: Which event do you think had the biggest effect? #9413LoganRegistered Boarder@Raj, combination of all these created negative sentiment but we don’t know which among these has the biggest impact. With this poll we can get an answer to that (sort of). It’s important to know what everyone thinks and what opinions they have.
If we give an option of “All the above” then we’ll not get an accurate answer because most of us will select that option. We’ll have to assume that each and every event had the same impact which is not correct. If we look at the current results, Daum has 4 times the votes that PE firms selling has.
While looking at the impact of PE firms selling – Sansar, Everest and other firms exits brought more negativity than Oak’s.
Then recently, Oak exit didn’t cause negativity like the Axis case caused. So putting both together will not be accurate.
LoganRegistered Boarder@drjaysee, I think going for buyback right away will hurt the company. At first, the company has to close off Daum issue because the market is giving more importance to it. The company has to pay interest on LOC too so it’ll harm the company if they do both Daum settlement and buyback. 120crs (assuming $16M) is a big amount for the company.
(Whenever I wrote on buyback of shares, I meant it should be done once all the issues are closed/resolved)
I don’t think Tanla went up only because of the buyback. Even after the buyback was announced, the share price didn’t fly. Tanla went up because of many factors, like the business improved drastically, Banyan bought more shares from the market, since it is a cloud company (cloud communication) people got excited and of course the buyback. Buyback was like a catalyst.
We see Tanla at 500 and get excited but we have to remember that it’s shares traded below 10 for 3-4 years. That time even the market sentiment towards Tanla was very negative. People weren’t trusting the promoters and many didn’t see any future for the company because they thought penny price stocks/companies are all bad (most of them are).
Coming to BCG, at the end of the day, we all want value realization. Doesn’t matter if it happens because of stable investors buying or the company buying back shares or by closing off outstanding issues.
Right now, value recognition is there but the problem is value realization hasn’t happened yet because of the pending issues. Even after closing off the issues, if value realization doesn’t happen then the company can go for buyback of shares.
LoganRegistered BoarderI think the jump in publishers count is because of Thanksgiving holiday (26th-Thursday) in the US and after that on 27th there’s Black Friday and on 30th there’s Cyber Monday. On both these days there’ll be more shopping because of huge discounts and this year because of the pandemic most of the shopping will be done online.
From 27th on wards the shopping season starts in the US, so I’m guessing there’ll be increase in the publishers count even more. Hopefully the increase in publishers will reflect in the financials too.
Cyber Monday has become the online equivalent to Black Friday and offers a way for smaller retail websites to compete with larger chains. Since its inception, it has become an international marketing term used by online retailers across the world.
LoganRegistered Boarder@nithin_asce, regarding Axis, the CEO said the same thing in the last conference call and I think compared to the last call, they’ve made a lot of progress. These cases will take time and people are so anxious because the case is in NCLT.
Regarding additional costs, I think it’s mostly to do with product development and signing new publishers. Getting reputed publishers to do business with you is very hard and you have to invest a lot to do that. I think results will be good in Q3 because of presidential elections, Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays.
The Christmas shopping season starts from black friday (day after Thanksgiving day) and this year because COVID-19, people will shop more online so demand should pick up.
LoganRegistered Boarder@dileepvn, it’s mostly to do with currency fluctuations. The CFO answered similar query in last year’s (FY 2019-20) 2nd quarter conference call. I think the transcript is available in Yahoo finance, please check it.
LoganRegistered Boarder@VALUEBUYER001, yes, its because of that. Sorry I didn’t check properly.
1+LoganRegistered Boarder@Admin, these are my queries/suggestions for the conference call.
– BCG had a good quarter in Q1 but why there was no growth in profits in Q2? (DM business revenues went up 10% but profits are flat)
– Status of LOC and Axis case.
– Why consolidation of subsidiaries is put on hold?
– In the last call, the CEO told us that by the next conference call there’ll be improvement in communications with the investors but we haven’t seen any significant improvement. We understand that the company can’t reveal sensitive information and we’ll always respect that but we need an acknowledgement at least from your side for our mails.
– The auditor has mentioned the following in the recent Q2 report –
Without qualifying our review report, Attention is invited to the following material observations which have been identified by us during the verification period:
The company is having branch operations at USA which are part of standalone financials.
What’s the significance of this statement?
– Can the CEO reveal why Oak didn’t honor the agreement with the company and sold their shares in the open market. We understand that this is a sensitive topic and involves another party but their selling has brought more harm and manipulations of share prices.
– Are there plans to revive the parent company’s business? There’s no growth in revenues and the profits are too small – for many years.
– Just a gentle reminder to make the annual report as informative as possible. Complete details of items like other assets, loans and advances etc should be mentioned. Please give more information about the plans for the future too. Also give more details about the digital marketing business in the annual report.
– Is Onetag part of BCG?
– Which brand name does BCG provide DSP and DMP services?
– Once Daum settlement ,and India debt are closed, can the company dedicate cash to buy back shares from the market? Since there are too many shares in the market, it’s very easy for operators to manipulate the prices and the company buying back shares will bring some stability at least. Since BCG is massively undervalued, it’ll be a great investment too.
– Can you appoint a person who can advise the company on topics related to the stock market?
LoganRegistered Boarder@diamond_2017, I don’t think they are concentrating on the software business. Maybe they have plans for it (the project that Mr.Pisipathi was supposed to work on and the AI&ML projects). Let’s ask them about it. I consider the parent company as an holding company. My interest is mainly in their digital/online advertising business.
LoganRegistered BoarderOne positive thing that I noticed is, cash has increased from 118.94crs (March end) to 130.47crs (last year after Q2, cash was 107.69crs). This is in spite of paying more taxes. In FY20, for the 6 months ending (Sept 2019), taxes paid was 63.18crs and in FY21, for the 6 months ending, taxes paid was 82.47crs. That’s an increase of 19.3crs.
LoganRegistered Boarder@drjaysee, BCG is the only company where few investors hold other investors responsible for price movements and actions of the CEO. If some people have problem with the CEO and the promoters, let them give complaint to the police or to SEBI. We’ll support them if they find something wrong with the company.
Instead of dealing with the CEO, they blame other investors. They think they are the only people who have put money. They don’t understand that each and every person, be it members of this forum or any other investor of BCG has put his/her hard earned money.
We may have different opinions, but at the end of day we all want the same thing i.e good returns on our investments. I don’t see this drama happening in other companies. Investors of other companies are very mature and they speak/comment in a dignified manner.
I don’t think anyone here has advised others to buy or sell shares. It’s left to individuals to take that decision. If someone buys or sells shares of any company looking at what others comment, then that person is the most stupid person in my opinion. With BCG, if I make money or lose money then I won’t blame anyone else, I’ll blame myself.
Many people don’t want us to discuss important things. They don’t want this forum to exist because we don’t agree with their views. They only want everyone to discuss conspiracy theories like promoters snatching away shares. For every problem they think the answer is promoters snatching away shares.
They abuse us and write fake things about us and if they continue to do that then we can take legal actions against them. Till now we have neglected them but even our patience is running thin.
LoganRegistered Boarder@drjaysee, the results are disappointing. Always Q1 and Q3 will be good for BCG but I thought in Q2 BCG would grow at least 10% YOY because of the corona situation. All the other adtech companies had a great quarter except BCG.
@odysee, I don’t think increase in number of publishers/accounts in Adauth will result in significant growth in revenues because Magnite Inc (Rubicon & Telaria combined) has more than 85lakh accounts and 4.75lakh publishers. Magnite’s revenue is less than BCG’s (half of BCG) so if we consider only data on Adauth for growth and other analysis then we’ll not get a clear picture.LoganRegistered Boarder@rahul, only the CEO could answer that question. I don’t have knowledge on that subject. They might have considered that option too but my guess is that one subsidiary may not get access to all the receivables because other subs are not under it. In my opinion, the parent company may access it easily because all the subs come under the parent. That’s why they wanted to consolidate all the subs which makes it easier for many things. Don’t know why they put it on hold.
LoganRegistered Boarder@tanv151, I agree with you.
On top of that we have the US presidential election drama going on which will benefit news publishers and it looks like this drama won’t stop for few weeks at least. There will be increase in traffic in these websites. BCG did a great job signing reputed news publishers in their B-Local initiative. Then there’ll be Christmas shopping (mostly online). This quarter (Oct-Dec) will be very good for BCG.
LoganRegistered BoarderThe Trade Desk Sets Record Earnings as Marketers Embrace Programmatic Advertising
CEO Jeff Green said during the earnings call the company has gained more market share through the first three quarters of 2020 than in any other point in the company’s history
Other ad-tech companies have also boasted record highs as programmatic spending return to pre-lockdown levels, since marketers value the channel for the flexibility and efficiency it offers while facing uncertainty during the pandemic.
The Trade Desk Explodes Higher on Stronger Ad Revenue
Programmatic advertising specialist The Trade Desk (NASDAQ:TTD) was up more than 10% in after-hours trading Thursday in the wake of its blowout third-quarter financial results. The company reported revenue of $216 million, up 32% year over year, while delivering earnings per share (EPS) of $1.27. To put that in context, analysts’ consensus estimates were calling for revenue of $180.88 million and EPS of $0.43.
Growth is also back near pre-pandemic levels, as the company’s 32% year over year revenue increase is on par with the 35% growth it delivered in Q4 2019.
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